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Page last updated: 11th December 2008

Latest News: "Brighton Timetables (Mon 8th and 15th), and An Unrefurbed Unit In Service!"

I cleared this page out when I re-structured the site on 7th April. Anything related to the
withdrawal can be found on the new "Withdrawal" page, and older news can be found
on the "Archive" page. If something seems to be missing from this page, check those
pages, or alternatively, take a look at the forum!

 

An Unrefurbed Unit In Service! (added 11-Dec-08)

Just a heads-up that there is still an unrefurbished set running around at the moment.
If you're lucky, you can catch it!

 

Brighton Timetables - Week Commencing Monday 8th Dec 2008 (added 11-Dec-08)

Thanks to John Atkinson for the information, and to jfs0996 for
reporting it to the Class442 forum.

Running Monday 8th - Friday 12th Dec 08, 10WES units will be working the following:

5X40 09+10 Lovers Walk - Gatwick
1U40 09.50 Gatwick - Victoria
1D44 10.45 Victoria - Gatwick
1U47 11.35 Gatwick - Victoria
1D51 12.30 Victoria - Gatwick
1U54 13.20 Gatwick - Victoria
1D58 14.15 Victoria - Gatwick
5X58 14+58 Gatwick - Lovers Walk

The displaced 460 units will sit spare in Gatwick Sidings in the meantime.

5wesman on the forum reported that on Monday 8th, 2412 and 2414 arrived at Gatwick
at 10:02 but suffered from PA failure. emmtee reported that the 0950 was "displaced
due to broken rail at Streatham Common".

 

Brighton Timetables - Week Commencing Monday 15th Dec (added 11-Dec-08)

Thanks to jhclausen of UKmodernEMU for publishing this, and to d.river for
reporting it to the Class442 forum.

Please note that due to Wolverton running late on the refurbs, not all
diagrams will have 442s on them from the start.

1A31 6.32 Brighton-Victoria 7.35
1D34 8.00 Victoria-Gatwick Airport 8.30
5D34 8+35 Gatwick-Lovers Walk 9+15
5D07 16+32 Lovers Walk-Gatwick 17+15
1D07 17.20 Gatwick-Victoria 17.52
1A60 18.15 Victoria-Brighton 19.22

1A33 6.40 Brighton-Victoria 7.50
1D36 8.15 Victoria-Gatwick 8.45
5D36 8+50 Gatwick-Three Bridges 8+55
5D01 16+21 Three Bridges-Gatwick 16+27
1D01 16.35 Gatwick-Victoria 17.05
1A52 17.30 Victoria-Brighton 18.34
5A52 18+44 Brighton-Gatwick 19+31
1D25 19.35 Gatwick-Victoria 20.05
1D36 20.30 Victoria-Gatwick 21.00
1D41 21.20 Gatwick-Victoria 21.50
ECS to Stewarts Lane?

1A37 6.56 Brighton-Victoria 8.05
1D38 8.30 Victoria-Gatwick 9.00
5H36 9+09 Gatwick-Hove Yard 9+50
5D11 17+00 Hove Yard-Gatwick 17+45
1D11 17.50 Gatwick-Victoria 18.22
1A66 18.45 Victoria-Brighton 19.46

1A39 7.15 Brighton-Victoria 8.20
1D40 8.45 Victoria-Gatwick 9.15
5D40 9+20 Gatwick-Three Bridges 9+26
5D05 16+52 Three Bridges-Gatwick 16+56
1D05 17.05 Gatwick-Victoria 17.35
1A58 18.00 Victoria-Brighton 19.10

1A41 7.30 Brighton-Victoria 8.35
1D42 9.00 Victoria-Gatwick 9.30
1D47 9.50 Gatwick-Victoria 10.20
1D56 10.45 Victoria-Gatwick 11.15
1D61 11.35 Gatwick-Victoria 12.05
1D70 12.30 Victoria-Gatwick 13.00
1D75 13.20 Gatwick-Victoria 13.50
1D84 14.15 Victoria-Gatwick 14.45
1D89 15.05 Gatwick-Victoria 15.35
1D98 16.00 Victoria-Gatwick 16.30
1D03 16.50 Gatwick-Victoria 17.20
1A56 17.45 Victoria-Brighton 18.50

ECS from Stewarts Lane
1D10 5.00 Victoria-Gatwick 5.30
1D15 5.50 Gatwick-Victoria 6.20
1D22 6.30 Victoria-Gatwick 7.00
5A04 7+03 Gatwick-Brighton 7+33
1A43 7.44 Brighton-Victoria 8.52
5T43 9+09 Victoria-Stewarts Lane 9+24
5T00 15+34 Stewarts Lane-Victoria 15+50
1A02 16.15 Victoria-Haywards Heath 16.57
5D09 17+08 Haywards Heath-Gatwick 17+27
1D09 17.35 Gatwick-Victoria 18.05
1A62 18.30 Victoria-Brighton 19.39

From Feb/March there will be a morning peak service from Eastborne - London Bridge,
returning in the evening service.

 

442s in service again! (added 12th June)

This news just in! From December this year, 442s will be working services from Brighton.
The stopping pattern will be fast from Victoria to Gatwick, then some intermediate stops
between Gatwick and Brighton. They will NOT be in Southern livery!

Thanks to d.river for the info!

From Brighton:

06.33
06.40
06.56
07.15
07.29
07.46

From Victoria:

17.30
17.45
18.00
18.15
18.30
18.45

 

First Trip to Brighton (added 12th June)

2405+2406 visited Brighton on 9th June for driver training. More trips are planned from
the 9th to the 13th on an "as required" basis. Thanks to SulzerSupremo for the info.

5Z70 10+23 LW - Three Bridges - Brighton:

P.Park 10:28
H.Heath 10:42-10:52
T.Bridges 11:01-11:10
H.Heath 11:18-11:20
P.Park 11:32
Brighton 11:37 (plat5)

5Z71 12+24 Brighton - Three Bridges - LW:

P.Park 12:28
H.Heath 12:42-12:52
T.Bridges 13:01-13:10
H.Heath 13:18-13:20
P.Park 13:32
Brighton 13:43-13:52
LW 14:17

5Z72 14+23 LW - Three Bridges - Brighton - LW:

P.Park 14:29
H.Heath 14:43-14:52
T.Bridges 15:01-15:10
H.Heath 15:20-15:22
P.Park 15:34
Brighton 15:40-15:46 (plat3)
LW 16:06

5Z73 16+23 LW - Three Bridges - LW:

P.Park 16:28,
H.Heath 16:42-16:49
T.Bridges 16:58-17:07
H.Heath 17:18-17:20
P.Park, 17:31-17:32
LW 17:37

 

Goodbye Slammers (added 11th April)

This is not yet confirmed, and isn't really related to this website, but I thought you'd find
it interesting nonetheless. There is a good possibility that the slammers that work the
Lymington Branch will be withdrawn and replaced by a Class 450 Desiro instead.

Timescale is somewhat unknown yet, but my source states that this is on the cards due
to the running costs of these older trains, expensive and harder to obtain parts, and
a poor return on investment for SWT.

While this isn't an area this website is focussed on, I may well post further updates
here as and when they become available. These are the last slam door trains to be used
in mainline passenger service.

 

Wheelslip Protection Testing (added 11th April)

Originally scheduled for 12th April, this working took place a day earlier, on the 11th.
It was apparently a 10WES working, 2407 and 2410, out to test the Wheelslip Protection.

Saturday 12th April 2008


5Z41 ELEIGHRNC 00:36 EASTLEIGH 01:52 (Fareham 01:25-31)
5Z42 EASTLEIGH 02:00 BOURNEMTH 02:55
5Z43 BOURNEMTH 03:00 EASTLEIGH 03:43
5Z44 EASTLEIGH 03:50 BOURNEMTH 04:37
5Z45 BOURNEMTH 04:42 STHAMPTON 05:14
5Z46 STHAMPTON 05:19 BROCKNHST 05:38
5Z47 BROCKNHST 05:46 ELEIGHRNC 06:26

Moves (added 11th April)

73204, 442404 and 442411 went to ECS from Eastleigh to Chart Leacon on 1st April. There
are also two Cl442s at Wolverton (see post below, "Wolverton Move"). This is interesting
because Chart Leacon is owned by Bombardier, and Wolverton by Alstom.

Perhaps Angel Trains have sent these units off to be returned as prototypes, to see which
company they'll go with for the refitting for Southern/GatEx?

 

Refurbishment Specification (added 20th Jan 2008)

Some information regarding the refurbishment of the 442s for use with Southern/GatEx:

- Standard class will be in the trailers. (DTC, TS, TSW, DTS)
- First class will be in the MBLS - will be open, no compartments.
- Buffet and snug removed.
- Seating will be 2+2, airline style.
- There will be two tables with facing seats, possibly in the center
of the saloon for symmetrical reasons.
- Door vestibules will be larger and will have tip-up seats>
- The doorways into the saloons will be larger.
- Luggage racks will be fitted to the bulkhead to the vestibule.

They will be run as 10 car units, providing around 600 seats, compared with
around 350 in an 8 car class 460, so a big increase in capacity.

This information is not 100% confirmed.

Thanks for Colin Duff for posting this to the southwesttrains Yahoo! Group.

 

Wolverton Move (added 2nd December 2007)

Two 442 units will be going to Wolverton on Monday, Dec 3rd for GatEx work. This
will probably include removing the buffet and snug area, luggage areas, new
upholstery and new livery. Hopefully they won't replace the seats with the thinner
ones that seem to be more commonplace on our trains!

Credit to Hentis and Roger Smith (WRGEN) - thanks!

0Z80 07.50 Southampton MT - Eastleigh Works,
Eastleigh Sta 08.15-20.
Train 5Z80 runs MO 03/12/07 Loco-Hauled Sector 09 (FLHH) Set up by TSDB on 28/11/07 Type STP Location Booked 86092 ELEIGH RC 09:45 86087 EASTLEIGH 09:50 09:55 86084 SHAWFORD PASS 10:02 86083 WINCHESTR PASS 10:06 86069 WORTINGJN PASS 10:24 86066 BASINSTOK PASS 10:28 86045 FLEET PASS 10:44 86042 FARNBORO PASS 10:49 87043 PIRBGHTJN PASS 10:54 86040 WOKING JN PASS 11:05 86031 WOKING PASS 11:06 86022 BYFLEETNH PASS 11:14 86010 ADDLSTNJN PASS 11:16 87106 VIRGINIAW PASS 11:34 87114 STAINES PASS 11:45 87121 FELTHAM PASS 11:54 87122 FELTHAMJN PASS 11:58 87131 TWCKNMJ PASS 12:02 87131 TWICKNHAM PASS 12:03 87133 STMARGRTS PASS 12:05 87135 RICHMOND PASS 12:08 87149 BARNES PASS 12:16 87219 CLAPHAMJN PASS 12:20 87205 LATCHMERE PASS 12:23 72241 KENSGTN O PASS 12:27 72238 NTHPOLEJN PASS 12:30 72237 MITREBDGJ PASS 12:31 72268 WILSDNWLJ PASS 12:32 72236 WILSDNNO7 PASS 12:34 72115 WEMBLYDSJ PASS 12:35 72229 SUDBURYJN PASS 12:36 72021 WEMBLEY C PASS 12:38 72007 HARROWWLD PASS 12:41 71040 WATFORDJN PASS 12:47 71009 BOURNEEND PASS 12:57 70411 TRING PASS 13:03 70320 LEDBURNJN PASS 13:10 70306 BLETCHLEY PASS 13:20 70261 MILTON KC PASS 13:24 70215 WOLVERTON 13:28 13:33 70217 WOLVTN CS 13:38

Test Run (added 16th November)

Posting this one late, real life got in the way!

2424 ran on the 15th November as follows:

5Z73 runs THO 15/11/07
Location Booked 87238 SLNT&RSMD 19:00 ORIGINATING PT 87234 STEWRTSLN 19:05 19:10 CALLING POINT 87232 LONGHDGJN PASS 19:12 PASSING POINT 87219 CLAPHAMJN PASS 19:14 PASSING POINT 87222 BALHAM PASS 19:17 PASSING POINT 87637 SELHURST PASS 19:22 PASSING POINT 87700 WINDMLBJN PASS 19:22 PASSING POINT 87701 E CROYDON PASS 19:24 PASSING POINT 87801 PURLEY PASS 19:29 PASSING POINT 87901 STOATSNJN PASS 19:30 PASSING POINT 87903 EARLSWOOD PASS 19:35 PASSING POINT 87911 GATWICK PASS 19:39 PASSING POINT 87920 THREEBGES PASS 19:41 PASSING POINT 87927 BALCMBTJN PASS 19:42 PASSING POINT 87967 HAYWARDSH PASS 19:48 PASSING POINT 87972 KEYMERJN PASS 19:52 PASSING POINT 87975 PRESTONPK PASS 20:02 PASSING POINT 87979 LOVERS WK 20:05 TERMINATING PT

2424 ran with a blue 73 on the front and a GBRF 73 on the rear.
It was approximately 15 minutes late at East Croydon.

 

Return of the 442s! (added 7th November)

An undisclosed number of 442s are to return to Weymouth/Waterloo services!
A possible start date is December with the units being withdrawn again around
April or May 2008.

This is due to a shortage of Desiros (both of the 444 and 450 variety), and the
collapse of Hunslet Barclay, the company where they were being repaired. The
company may well continue under administration, but it remains to be seen.

There's not very much been confirmed about this so far, but I'll put the
latest news up as I receive it! Please also see THIS THREAD on the
forum as it may be more up-to-date than information here!

 

Brighton Line Test Run #2 (added 19th October)

There will be a training run on Friday 19th October:

Friday 19th October 2007

5Z01 10.10 Eastleigh Works - Basingstoke
5Z02 11.36 Basingstoke - Eastleigh Works
5Z03 13.10 Eastleigh Works - Basingstoke
5Z04 14.26 Basingstoke - Eastleigh Works

As before; I won't be around to take photos, but if
anyone does, I'd be happy to host them - just ask!

 

Brighton Line Test Run (added 31st August)

I've been sitting on this one for a while - apologies for not updating the site!

2424 + ED will be on a test run on the Brighton Main Line on Friday 31st August.
Thanks to Lawe on the southwesttrains Yahoo! Group.

I won't be around to take photos, but if anyone does, I'd be
happy to host them - just ask!

FRIDAY 31st August 2007
73136 + 24??

SLNT&RSMD 11:35
STEWRTSLN 11:45 11:49
LONGHDGJN PASS 11:58
POUPPTSJN PASS 12:01
CLAPHAMJN PASS 12:02
BALHAM PASS 12:04
SELHURST PASS 12:09
WINDMLBJN PASS 12:10
E CROYDON PASS 12:12
PURLEY PASS 12:15
STOATSNJN PASS 12:16
EARLSWOOD PASS 12:22
GATWICK PASS 12:28
THREEBGES PASS 12:35
THREBUPSS 12:38 13:08
THREEBGES PASS 13:10
GATWICK PASS 13:12
EARLSWOOD PASS 13:16
STOATSNJN PASS 13:22
PURLEY PASS 13:23
E CROYDON PASS 13:26
WINDMLBJN PASS 13:27
SELHURST PASS 13:27
BALHAM PASS 13:32
CLAPHAMJN PASS 13:35
POUPPTSJN PASS 13:37
LONGHDGJN PASS 13:40
FACTORYJN 13:55 13:59
STEWRTSLN 14:01 14:05
SLNT&RSMD 14:15

 

More Driver Training (added 13th August)

More driving training has been scheduled, again between Eastleigh and Basingstoke.
Thanks to 777fred for posting this to Tom's forum, and YK before him.

Train 5Z03 runs TO from 14/08/07 to 21/08/07
Multiple-Unit Sector 54 (GBrf) Type STP

Location Booked
86109 ELEIGHRNC 13:10
86087 EASTLEIGH PASS 13:15
86104 ALLBROOKJ PASS 13:17
86084 SHAWFORD PASS 13:22
86083 WINCHESTR PASS 13:26
86069 WORTINGJN PASS 13:40
86066 BASINSTOK PASS 13:43
86065 BASING BM 13:46

Train 5Z04 runs TO from 14/08/07 to 21/08/07
Multiple-Unit Sector 54 (GBrf) Type STP

Location Booked
86065 BASING BM 14:26
86066 BASINSTOK PASS 14:29
86069 WORTINGJN PASS 14:33
86083 WINCHESTR PASS 14:44
86084 SHAWFDJ PASS 14:48
86084 SHAWFORD PASS 14:49
86087 EASTLEIGH PASS 14:56
86109 ELEIGHRNC 15:02

 

Gatwick Express Confirmed

Looks like some of the piggies (an unknown number at this time) will be heading over to
Southern to help out the Gatwick Express services. Here's a press release - click!

A couple of questions do spring to mind - firstly, will they be using the same traction
packages? There's been rumours that an alternative traction package has been looked
at, presumably as the current package has been unreliable lately... (unreliable due to
lack of good maintenance, in my opinion!).

Secondly, they will presumably have new or modified interiors to allow more room for
luggage - so what will they change? First thing to go will probably be the first class
booths (or cubibles, call them what you will!). Then there'll likely be a reduction in
seats overall to make room for luggage racks. Perhaps a removal of the tables in
standard class, so they can put more seats in to make up for those lost to the racks.

Speculation. :-)

 

Driver Training (added 16th May)

On the 17th May, there will be driver training between Eastleigh and Basingstoke.
Thanks to Hentis on Tom's Forum, and 73140/37251 and RS before him!
Booked as follows:

Train 5Z42 runs THO 17/05/07 Multiple-Unit
54 miles Sector 09 (FLHH) Type STP

Location Booked C Pw Miles
86092 ELEIGH RC 10:47
86087 EASTLEIGH 10:52 10:53 0 1
86084 SHAWFORD PASS 11:00 2
86083 WINCHESTR PASS 11:03 2 8
86069 WORTINGJN PASS 11:21 2
86066 BASINSTOK 11:30 11:33 0 27
86065 BASING BM 11:36 11:42 0
86066 BASINSTOK 11:45 11:45 0 27
86069 WORTINGJN PASS 11:49 2
86083 WINCHESTR PASS 12:00 2 46
86084 SHAWFORD PASS 12:02 2
86087 EASTLEIGH 12:13 12:14 0 53
86092 ELEIGH RC 12:19 3 54

Train 5Z43 runs THO 17/05/07 Multiple-Unit
54 miles Sector 09 (FLHH) Type STP

Location Booked C Pw Miles
86092 ELEIGH RC 14:39
86087 EASTLEIGH 14:44 14:45 0 1
86084 SHAWFORD PASS 14:53 2
86083 WINCHESTR PASS 14:57 2 8
86069 WORTINGJN PASS 15:15 2
86066 BASINSTOK 15:18 15:24 0 27
86065 BASING BM 15:27 15:51 0
86066 BASINSTOK 15:54 15:54 0 27
86069 WORTINGJN PASS 15:59 2
86083 WINCHESTR PASS 16:17 2 46
86084 SHAWFORD PASS 16:19 2
86087 EASTLEIGH 16:25 16:26 0 53
86092 ELEIGH RC 16:31 3 54